Latest GSR Technik S63tu Stage 2 Tune +139whp +107wtq (676whp/613wtq)

[desant89]

Laughable is to think that cause we bought a 100k+ car that we need to pay top dollar for everything for it. Sad part is, I am not saying I won't eventually pay, and get a tune. I just know, and submit to the fact that with high end cars we pay a premium for everything.

[Msizzle]

guys its not a reasonable to say we paid 100k+ for a sports car because within reason the car cost more to build, but the "tune" doesn't cost that much more because the car is more expensive. But even worst than that is the prices we pay for intakes and exhaust systems. the price of that mrs intake is insane! i understand they have to recoup the initial investment over less sales but at the end of the day its pipes and a cone and is not worth over $2500

[A Frankfurt]

And its never going to change either.
Its the price that we pay for having luxury things.
An example is I can get a Lamborghini engine oil filter from the dealer list at $70 estimate
I can get the exact same engine oil filter from the same company but NOT labeled Lamborghini for under $30
It is.. what it is

[GSR Technik]

Originally Posted by Autohaus Frankfurt

The price discussion is laughable.
GSR/Jailbreak is right along with top tuners based on price.
Just because they release their prices online everyone wants to say too expensive ?
So your $100,000+ car wasn't expensive either right ?
But we purchase them anyways cause we want the best
Same with products. I'd want the best products on any vehicle.
I know that GSR will back up their tunes and clients as well.
Good parts aren't cheap and cheap parts aren't good.

[GSR Technik]

Originally Posted by Msizzle

guys its not a reasonable to say we paid 100k+ for a sports car because within reason the car cost more to build, but the "tune" doesn't cost that much more because the car is more expensive. But even worst than that is the prices we pay for intakes and exhaust systems. the price of that mrs intake is insane! i understand they have to recoup the initial investment over less sales but at the end of the day its pipes and a cone and is not worth over $2500

My wife just bought a Viking refrigerator that is made by Frigidair which make the same refrigerator. So basically I just bought a Frigidaire with a $700 Viking emblem which was the price difference between the two. Apparently the fridge needs to match to cooktop else all hell will break loose.

[AstonMartian777]

Originally Posted by GSR Autosport

My wife just bought a Viking refrigerator that is made by Frigidair which make the same refrigerator. So basically I just bought a Frigidaire with a $700 Viking emblem which was the price difference between the two. Apparently the fridge needs to match to cooktop else all hell will break loose.

It's not like GSR is the top tuner in the world, I've never even heard of you. Everyone heard of Eurocharged for example

[The Goose]

Originally Posted by AstonMartian777

It's not like GSR is the top tuner in the world, I've never even heard of you. Everyone heard of Eurocharged for example

I have never heard of you so what does that mean? That's a pretty childish thing to say to anyone. Did you hear of Google a decade or so ago? What about Space X? But I guess those guys, when they were bulidng their ideas should of quit trying because nobody heard of them until they became household brands. A wise man once told me go to where the ball is going to be not where it currently is. Based on what I've seen I think people are going to know about GSR pretty quick and will have no problem paying $3500 for the tune.

My drag racing background has given me the ability to understand what these guys are doing and how they tune. Maybe you should stop and think before you speak. I think it's unfair to judge anyone unless you do your due diligence. So far I'm impressed with what I have seen. Maybe I will eat my own words someday but so far I'm impressed.

Cheers

[GSR Technik]

Originally Posted by AstonMartian777

It's not like GSR is the top tuner in the world, I've never even heard of you. Everyone heard of Eurocharged for example

Dude, I was just sharing a funny corollary - chill out!

[desant89]

I just want to clarify that I am in no way saying anything bad or negative about GSR. I am very impressed with what I have seen so far from them. I may even eventually end up with their tune. I just had to reply when someone mentioned "for what we pay for these cars" as I feel that should not be part of the equation. And that goes for anything, not just our cars.

[GSR Technik]

Originally Posted by desant89

I just want to clarify that I am in no way saying anything bad or negative about GSR. I am very impressed with what I have seen so far from them. I may even eventually end up with their tune. I just had to reply when someone mentioned "for what we pay for these cars" as I feel that should not be part of the equation. And that goes for anything, not just our cars.

[The Goose]

Originally Posted by desant89

I just want to clarify that I am in no way saying anything bad or negative about GSR. I am very impressed with what I have seen so far from them. I may even eventually end up with their tune. I just had to reply when someone mentioned "for what we pay for these cars" as I feel that should not be part of the equation. And that goes for anything, not just our cars.

I can appreciate what you mean and understand how that came off. I was more interpreting my knowledge of what I have learned from Matt and Bobby so far. We are on the Dyno right now and based on what the Dynojet just spit out we are the current M5 record holder for RWHP and RWTQ on 91 octane. 4th gear pull 689 RWHP at 6200RPM and 616 RWTQ. What's awesome is the torque curve and how broad and flat it is.

[The Goose]

Uhh check that, 707RWHP and 625RWTQ.

[E92TTKING]

Originally Posted by ericg69ss

Uhh check that, 707RWHP and 625RWTQ.

What tune make a new thread!

[The Goose]

Originally Posted by E92TTKING

What tune make a new thread!

I will. The tune is GSR Technik and will make a new thread when I get back to work and have time this afternoon.

[Andym3100k]

I suggest to bring it to the strip & make some timing there, 0-100, 100-200, 200-300, 0-60, 60-130, 1/4mile, 1/2mile.......
With all these timing everyone will have a gauge of how powerful this tune can be....

[MCarsFan]

+1

[ShlemonboostedM]

So what makes your tune $1700-1000 more then every other tune out their ? You all guys basically share the same file with all the other tuners .. Maybe you did some adjustments too your but charging people $3500 for a tune is just ridiculous.. Eurocharge is very known and respected company charging $1800 I don't see you making double amount of power Either .. I don't want to sound like an ass and all I understand you guys want to make money but you got to know where to stop ..

[boots]

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[IANNUZZI]

Usually what's done with turbo tunes, especially this high a caliber motor, is the tuner installs the tune on the shop car or agreed upon customer car and they take to the track to prove the results. Anyone that has been in the turbo game a while knows the track is the shiz, the dyno is the biz.

[GSR Technik]

For those commenting about the price we are offering a group buy price for Bimmerpost members.

Stage 1: $2,000
Stage 2: $2,500

For those saying "we all (tuners) share the same files" that's just not the case. We engineer our tunes in-house, all done by our Chief Tuning Guru, Matt Bekam. Yes, he is a real person. If you want to come and observe him extract the file and layer in changes by hand for each car please come on by. As I've said before if you want to go for the cheapest product in town, by all means go ahead, but all tunes are not created equal. The downside of this business is people will start stealing tunes and passing them off as their own. That's when the price wars break out because these "shops" thieving files don't have any R&D costs. Then again you don't no what you might end up with in your car. I recommend to everyone to talk to the person that engineered the tune and ask for references - if that person is non-existent and their references are few and far between. Move on.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

I suggest to bring it to the strip & make some timing there, 0-100, 100-200, 200-300, 0-60, 60-130, 1/4mile, 1/2mile.......
With all these timing everyone will have a gauge of how powerful this tune can be....

+1

[chask]

Originally Posted by Autohaus Frankfurt

And its never going to change either.
Its the price that we pay for having luxury things.
An example is I can get a Lamborghini engine oil filter from the dealer list at $70 estimate
I can get the exact same engine oil filter from the same company but NOT labeled Lamborghini for under $30
It is.. what it is

Originally Posted by desant89

Laughable is to think that cause we bought a 100k+ car that we need to pay top dollar for everything for it. Sad part is, I am not saying I won't eventually pay, and get a tune. I just know, and submit to the fact that with high end cars we pay a premium for everything.

I had one of the early turbo kits for a BMW 320. It had a Bosch CIS injection system - mechanical system that used a flap in the airflow to meter fuel to the engine. There was an acceptable range of fuel system pressure (from Bosch I assume - printed in the BMW service manual) and we found out fairly early on that increasing the system pressure to the upper limit was a way to get more fuel into the engine and thus get better performance. All the manufacturers that used Bosch used the CIS on one car or another and they all had a shim kit to adjust the pressure. One time I was at a dealer that also sold Mercedes and VW getting some work done on my car. On a whim (not much else to do) I decided to see if the VW and MB parts were the same as the shim kit from BMW, and what they cost. I do not remember the actual prices but it was something like this - MB was something like $60-65, BMW around $35, and VW's was under $30. They were all the exact same parts: a hollow bolt with holes in it that fit into the center of the fuel distributer and a set of washers of varying thicknesses - used to shim that bolt, thus adjusting the maximum fuel system pressure. The bolts were identical (the same length and diameter, with the exact same threads) and so were the shims. All of them were in a plastic bag but the MB and BMW parts were also in a little box (of course with their respective logos on them) while the VW part was just in a plastic bag with the VW logo on it. The only difference was the brand name on the packaging and the type of package it came in . . . oh, and of course the price. I'm sure they were all made by Bosch and packaged for the vehicle manufacturer.

I don't know about tuning any of the BMWs or Dodge products. I've done a GM. It was tough to get it drivable and have good performance. And it was just a basic turbo conversion - none of the fancy variable cam timing and other exotic stuff BMW is doing with these engines.

Another thing to consider in the price of a tune (besides the price of the car) or anything else for our cars is the number of cars that were made - the size of the tuner's market. There are a whole lot more Challengers around than there are M5's. A tuner can amortize the R&D costs over a lot more individual sales. I don't know how many M5's have been made with this engine but in one of the recent three years of M6 production I've read over in the M6 area that there were only something like 240 +/- M6's made one year. I remember flying into Detroit and on the way into town from the airport seeing this sign that showed that year's total car production on a billboard. The number was increasing so fast that it looked like the national debt clock. I checked it again on the way out. It was something like 250,000 were made the week I was there.

GSR Autosport - do you guys tune M6's too?