Tune options

[Mbdurham17]

I want a little more HP with no CEL, or other issues. I will not be installing down pipes, meth etc. Just looking for a lull more oomph over my previous car but still want it reliable with NO issues. Flash tunes interest me but what does not is removing the DMEs shipping etc, if someone was local it may be a different story. Is BMS Stage 1 my best bet? or Jb4 without BCM (don't want to get that invasive) Looks like Dinan (would pay more for no questions warranty) possibly won't work on my 2016 because of the waste gate from reading the web site however my local dealer as well as the one in Atlanta where I bought the car are both Dinan dealers.

Any advice would be appreciated.

[Eddybro]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

I want a little more HP with no CEL, or other issues. I will not be installing down pipes, meth etc. Just looking for a lull more oomph over my previous car but still want it reliable with NO issues. Flash tunes interest me but what does not is removing the DMEs shipping etc, if someone was local it may be a different story. Is BMS Stage 1 my best bet? or Jb4 without BCM (don't want to get that invasive) Looks like Dinan (would pay more for no questions warranty) possibly won't work on my 2016 because of the waste gate from reading the web site however my local dealer as well as the one in Atlanta where I bought the car are both Dinan dealers.

Any advice would be appreciated.

If you want a tune you have to take off the DMEs no other way around it.

Dinan and BMS are both piggy backs not actual tunes which each work equally well. If I had to choose between Dinan and BMS, I would go BMS all day. Reason being they are the same in regards to what they do, what separates the two will be the level of excellent service you get from Terry.

There are variables that piggy backs cannot change compared to an actual flash tune. If your concerned about warranty issues Stage 1 BMS, take it off whenever you go to the dealer.

If you want the safest and healthiest setup for the car you have to tune the DMEs, and there Is a big difference when you do.

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

I want a little more HP with no CEL, or other issues. I will not be installing down pipes, meth etc. Just looking for a lull more oomph over my previous car but still want it reliable with NO issues. Flash tunes interest me but what does not is removing the DMEs shipping etc, if someone was local it may be a different story. Is BMS Stage 1 my best bet? or Jb4 without BCM (don't want to get that invasive) Looks like Dinan (would pay more for no questions warranty) possibly won't work on my 2016 because of the waste gate from reading the web site however my local dealer as well as the one in Atlanta where I bought the car are both Dinan dealers.

Any advice would be appreciated.

My first tune I loaded in Jan 2014 was amazing. Stock car and it produced around 615whp. I would load a stage I tune all day long. The main bonus is the removal of the speed limiter.
Tunes have come a long way since then. I would never consider a piggy. Ever.

[Mbdurham17]

Originally Posted by Eddybro

If you want a tune you have to take off the DMEs no other way around it.

Dinan and BMS are both piggy backs not actual tunes which each work equally well. If I had to choose between Dinan and BMS, I would go BMS all day. Reason being they are the same in regards to what they do, what separates the two will be the level of excellent service you get from Terry.

There are variables that piggy backs cannot change compared to an actual flash tune. If your concerned about warranty issues Stage 1 BMS, take it off whenever you go to the dealer.

If you want the safest and healthiest setup for the car you have to tune the DMEs, and there Is a big difference when you do.

Thanks and yep i understand the difference in piggyback and flash tunes and would prefer doing a mild flash tune on the DME's if I had a good reputable shop anywhere near to have it done I just don't want to remove, ship, downtime etc and not be able to "drop by" if there is an issue.

Also just checked with Dinan and it is an option with my build date.

[Eddybro]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

Thanks and yep i understand the difference in piggyback and flash tunes and would prefer doing a mild flash tune on the DME's if I had a good reputable shop anywhere near to have it done I just don't want to remove, ship, downtime etc and not be able to "drop by" if there is an issue.

Also just checked with Dinan and it is an option with my build date.

Most of reputable Tuners will be able to remotely login to your car after the tune if you get the cable.

I know BPMSport does it.
After my tune he was doing some remote sessions.

If your going piggy back I would talk to Terry to find out the difference between BMS and Dinan, beside the obvious cost difference.

[apexlocator]

I agree having a local tuner is #1, but sounds like dinan is the way for you if you don't want to send in the DMEs, especially since your dealer is a reseller. A couple tuners can flash over OBD after the initial bench flash, including Mission Performance.

[MCarsFan]

There is little to go wrong on a stage I tune. Downtime is literally two to three days, probably equal to getting DINAN installed anyway.

Piggy backs aren't the greatest. Each to their own but I've loaded three different tunes and they really are the best. DME Tuning is another good option to consider out of New Jersey.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Most popular tune is the Jb

Since you are not planning on doing DP, meth, upgraded turbos, etc... No need for the Jb4 stage 2.

Jb stage 1 would be the best option for you in my opinion

[Lerxst M4]

Originally Posted by MCarsFan

There is little to go wrong on a stage I tune. Downtime is literally two to three days, probably equal to getting DINAN installed anyway.

Piggy backs aren't the greatest. Each to their own but I've loaded three different tunes and they really are the best. DME Tuning is another good option to consider out of New Jersey.

My Dinan install took 3 hours and I waited in the Momentum BMW lounge with free cookies and diet coke. lol

[Dracon]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

Thanks and yep i understand the difference in piggyback and flash tunes and would prefer doing a mild flash tune on the DME's if I had a good reputable shop anywhere near to have it done I just don't want to remove, ship, downtime etc and not be able to "drop by" if there is an issue.

Also just checked with Dinan and it is an option with my build date.

I suggest talking to GMWNashville here on the boards. He's the owner of German Motorworks here in Nashville and is a highly reputable shop.

He's a well-known former BMW Master Tech here in Nashville who started his own shop last year and is very popular with the BMW crowd here locally.

[f10eugene]

BPM tune all day

[fhaze3]

Being in ATL, Id be willing to drive a few hours if there is a enough members interested in a Flash Tuning session to fly in a reputable vendor?

I know Missision Performance does this occasionally, and I don't think there is THAT big a difference between flash tunes in performance. Customer Service, yes.

Perhaps one the vendors could offer to come on out?

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

I want a little more HP with no CEL, or other issues. I will not be installing down pipes, meth etc. Just looking for a lull more oomph over my previous car but still want it reliable with NO issues. Flash tunes interest me but what does not is removing the DMEs shipping etc, if someone was local it may be a different story. Is BMS Stage 1 my best bet? or Jb4 without BCM (don't want to get that invasive) Looks like Dinan (would pay more for no questions warranty) possibly won't work on my 2016 because of the waste gate from reading the web site however my local dealer as well as the one in Atlanta where I bought the car are both Dinan dealers.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Personally, I would flash tune all day long but I completely understand your situation. With that said, I would start off with the BMS Stage 1 @ the recommended 2.5-3 psi on 93 octane and see if that satisfies your craving. If you get bored, it can easy be upgraded to the JB4+BCM without loosing any $$ since the stage 1 is part of the JB4 package.

If you're considering a flash tune, find a local shop that can remove your DME, pay for round trip overnight shipping and send away. Most 3 days downtime. Removing the DME is very easy and takes 20-30 minutes in total.

[TheHouseWon]

I have JB4/BCM and have gotten used to the power, not only that but I was beat from a roll by @Eddybro and I just can't allow that to happen again

So tune it is... With downpipes.

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

I have JB4/BCM and have gotten used to the power, not only that but I was beat from a roll by @Eddybro and I just can't allow that to happen again

So tune it is... With downpipes.

Good decision :-)

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

I have JB4/BCM and have gotten used to the power, not only that but I was beat from a roll by @Eddybro and I just can't allow that to happen again

So tune it is... With downpipes.

hahahaha - that's exactly how I felt when I got the JB4+BCM. Kept getting killed by @MCarsfan with his stage 1.

[Mbdurham17]

Thank you for all of the input. Looks like I've got some decision making to do lol. I was all set on BMS or Dinan but considering doing the flash tune instead. I will probably start off with a piggy back and see if that does it for me then upgrade to flash if I want more lol. Im sure I could remove them myself just have to get a warm and fuzzy and be comfortable with the level of customer service if there is any issues.

Since I do not want to go all out meaning DPs turbos meth etc is it even worth it to do a flash?

Also what is the going rate for a DME tune?

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by Lerxst M5

My Dinan install took 3 hours and I waited in the Momentum BMW lounge with free cookies and diet coke. lol

And now you are joining me on the dark side...lol

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

Thank you for all of the input. Looks like I've got some decision making to do lol. I was all set on BMS or Dinan but considering doing the flash tune instead. I will probably start off with a piggy back and see if that does it for me then upgrade to flash if I want more lol. Im sure I could remove them myself just have to get a warm and fuzzy and be comfortable with the level of customer service if there is any issues.

Since I do not want to go all out meaning DPs turbos meth etc is it even worth it to do a flash?

Also what is the going rate for a DME tune?

Definitely.. losing the speed limiter alone plus getting a stage I gave me 612whp. But then I went nuts and modded the car like crazy and ended up with a stage 3 tune.. It's addictive

Here's my thread from 18 months ago.. Early pages will give you some decent info on stage 1..

On pricing back then it was close to nothing for a flash tune as I was one of the first to take the leap of faith..

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthr...086187&page=15

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

Thank you for all of the input. Looks like I've got some decision making to do lol. I was all set on BMS or Dinan but considering doing the flash tune instead. I will probably start off with a piggy back and see if that does it for me then upgrade to flash if I want more lol. Im sure I could remove them myself just have to get a warm and fuzzy and be comfortable with the level of customer service if there is any issues.

Since I do not want to go all out meaning DPs turbos meth etc is it even worth it to do a flash?

Also what is the going rate for a DME tune?

Tune can cost anywhere from $1500-$3000 depending on who you go with. Shipping there and back was $250 for overnight.

Defiantly try stage 1 and see if that gives you the oomph you need. I'm sure after a few weeks you'll want more. The stage 1 install is a breeze and won't be hard to do. Takes me $15 minutes to do after I've done it a few times. PM me if you need help.

[sbassi]

Originally Posted by MCarsFan

And now you are joining me on the dark side...lol

Stage 1 with Mike at BPM is worth every penny.

Been there done that with the piggy back.. Over it!

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

Thanks and yep i understand the difference in piggyback and flash tunes and would prefer doing a mild flash tune on the DME's if I had a good reputable shop anywhere near to have it done I just don't want to remove, ship, downtime etc and not be able to "drop by" if there is an issue.

Also just checked with Dinan and it is an option with my build date.

You won't have any issue with our software if the DME's are removed and reinstalled correctly. 99% of the time it's plug in and go. If there are any issues were are more than happy to assist remotely. It will be easier than swinging by your local shop

Originally Posted by f10eugene

BPM tune all day

Originally Posted by sbassi

Stage 1 with Mike at BPM is worth every penny.

Been there done that with the piggy back.. Over it!

Thank you, we've had tons of people switch from various setups with nothing but positive feedback

Originally Posted by fhaze3

Being in ATL, Id be willing to drive a few hours if there is a enough members interested in a Flash Tuning session to fly in a reputable vendor?

Perhaps one the vendors could offer to come on out?

If there was enough interest I'd be willing to take the trip. Otherwise, we've just completed our comprehensive DME removal guide and offer same day turnaround.