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      10-02-2024, 03:18 PM   #1
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BMW F10 M5 Reliability at 95k miles?

Hello everyone, I'm looking into maybe purchasing a 2015 BMW M5 @ 95k miles. Only thing I'm worried about is what I would need to do as far as maintenance and if it can stay reliable at this high mileage? Owner did tell me it was serviced (spark plugs were changed), and I haven't looked into all of its previous maintenance but he's willing to show me everything. From what I've heard when owning this car (researched online), the main issues seem to be rod bearings, AC condensers, and valve stem covers that can arise at this mileage. I honestly don't mind doing the maintenance at some point, but I'm worried it's going to leave me stranded not even a year of ownership. I'm curious from current or past owners of this car if it's a bad idea to buy at this mileage, or if it's built well to atleast keep running for a bit before I can do its maintenance. Also, it hasn't been tuned at all, stock it's whole life and I plan to keep it that way. Thank you!
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      10-02-2024, 03:38 PM   #2
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If it's properly maintained you should NOT (edit) worry. I bought mine with app. that milage. Have it for 20k miles now. Changed the clutch, shocks and rod bearings around 125k miles. No problems at all. And it's tuned now to around 800 hp.

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      10-02-2024, 04:11 PM   #3
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If it's properly maintained you should worry. I bought mine with app. that milage. Have it for 20k miles now. Changed the clutch, shocks and rod bearings around 125k miles. No problems at all. And it's tuned now to around 800 hp.
How much did that maintenance cost you? And I was wondering if you HAD to do it or were replacing it for the tune up on it right now? I'm not planning on tuning the car ever, so I'm hoping that helps reliability on it a lot.
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      10-02-2024, 04:29 PM   #4
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How much did that maintenance cost you? And I was wondering if you HAD to do it or were replacing it for the tune up on it right now? I'm not planning on tuning the car ever, so I'm hoping that helps reliability on it a lot.
Sorry, I made a typo. I have the for 30 k miles now.

Only the clutch I had to do. But that was after the car was to over 1000 Nm of torque and I drove spirited.

As I remember the prices including installing:
OEM Rod bearings: 3200 dollar
OEM Clutch: 2800 dollar
OEM EDC shocks (4 pieces): 6000 dollar
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      10-02-2024, 04:40 PM   #5
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How much did that maintenance cost you? And I was wondering if you HAD to do it or were replacing it for the tune up on it right now? I'm not planning on tuning the car ever, so I'm hoping that helps reliability on it a lot.
Sorry, I made a typo. I have the for 30 k miles now.

Only the clutch I had to do. But that was after the car was to over 1000 Nm of torque and I drove spirited.

As I remember the prices including installing:
OEM Rod bearings: 3200 dollar
OEM Clutch: 2800 dollar
OEM EDC shocks (4 pieces): 6000 dollar
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      10-02-2024, 04:49 PM   #6
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Sorry, I made a typo. I have the for 30 k miles now.

Only the clutch I had to do. But that was after the car was to over 1000 Nm of torque and I drove spirited.

As I remember the prices including installing:
OEM Rod bearings: 3200 dollar
OEM Clutch: 2800 dollar
OEM EDC shocks (4 pieces): 6000 dollar
That's not too bad at all if you're tuning the car to that amount of power, thank you for responding!
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At that mileage, the brakes should be looked at. I replaced both rotors at around 100k miles and doing the brakes with rotors will cost you 3500. Small things are going to start to fail at this time. Air conditioner, high pressure fuel pumps, have the injectors been replaced, brakes, suspension components, etc.

Have everything looked at through an independent shop. They will tell you the overall condition, most owners that do not service these vehicles (they are out there) will sell at this time due to several expensive services that are due. The mechanic can tell you about the condition of the pads and rotors, etc. You may buy a car for 30k and then find out that it now needs 5k of work, then in 6 months, another 2k, then in another six months, who knows...

Also, check the wear on the tires, they get expensive.

For any context on my 2013: I have spent about 10k on service and repairs over the last 60-70k miles, I currently have 152k miles, I'm a second owner and had it for 8 years. I bought it at around 60k miles.

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      10-03-2024, 01:14 AM   #8
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At that mileage, the brakes should be looked at. I replaced both rotors at around 100k miles and doing the brakes with rotors will cost you 3500. Small things are going to start to fail at this time. Air conditioner, high pressure fuel pumps, have the injectors been replaced, brakes, suspension components, etc.

Have everything looked at through an independent shop. They will tell you the overall condition, most owners that do not service these vehicles (they are out there) will sell at this time due to several expensive services that are due. The mechanic can tell you about the condition of the pads and rotors, etc. You may buy a car for 30k and then find out that it now needs 5k of work, then in 6 months, another 2k, then in another six months, who knows...

Also, check the wear on the tires, they get expensive.

For any context on my 2013: I have spent about 10k on service and repairs over the last 60-70k miles, I currently have 152k miles, I'm a second owner and had it for 8 years. I bought it at around 60k miles.
Thankfully I do have a family friend mechanic who is willing to do an inspection on the m5 first before I even think about buying it. It's just hard to think about what the car needs vs what can be done later or as preventative maintanence. I'm hoping that the engine is built well to the point I'm not constantly dumping money into it or the engine seizes. I'm hoping to keep this car for a while if I do go through with it after the inspection
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      10-03-2024, 11:48 AM   #9
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The engine is built well. Since the car wasn't modified, it should give many more miles. When things fail on this car, it's expensive and when maintenance needs to be done, it's also expensive. If the car passes through your PPI without issues, you're good.

The best pre purchase inspection is going to be with a shop that specializes in this car, not that your family friend is not going to be helpful, but it's best to have a BMW specialist that works on this car frequently so that they can be very specific with you. Good luck!
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      10-03-2024, 12:41 PM   #10
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I purchased a 14' M5 last year with 40,000 miles. It was all stock. 2 months ago the rod bearings failed on cyl 5. I got a new/rebuilt engine swapped in and will pick up car next week. This of course is worse case scenario but the other items I needed to replace for maintenance were coils, plugs, injectors, and I had the rod bearings upgraded to ACL. The shop who knows these cars that I used suggests that the fuel system components be replaced after 10 years. This was about $2k but included coils, plugs, and injectors/decouplers. Rod bearings will be around $3k and up with labor. I would definitely check all the fluids over well and know that your oil changes will be often (3k miles). The rod bearings are something you will want to swap out if you can sooner then later. My car was well maintained and wasn't run hard when my bearing seized. Best of luck!

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      10-03-2024, 01:29 PM   #11
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The engine is built well. Since the car wasn't modified, it should give many more miles. When things fail on this car, it's expensive and when maintenance needs to be done, it's also expensive. If the car passes through your PPI without issues, you're good.

The best pre purchase inspection is going to be with a shop that specializes in this car, not that your family friend is not going to be helpful, but it's best to have a BMW specialist that works on this car frequently so that they can be very specific with you. Good luck!
Funny enough, our family friend was a BMW specialist that worked at a bmw dealership before he opened up his shop. I'm really happy to have him because that way he knows what he's doin for sure.
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