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[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

My buddy has the 2023 Grand America version of that bike.

It's a hoot.

Here are a few suggestions if you decide to "farkle" the bike..... All are highly recommended:

Remus pipes
7 Jurok shield w/ vent
Road 6 tires
BT flash tune
Sprinter air filter
T-Rex front & rear crash bars
Foot peg lowering brackets
Side-stand enlarger
Yellow fog light covers
Grip Puppies
Shift peg extender
Brake pedal extender
Battery side covers
Oil cooler cover
Battery tender connector

R.

Thanks for the list.

I've been eyeing the kickstand enlarger because I don't have much pavement around the house to begin with and my go-to rock got washed away by the flood in May - LOL. I was looking at the 7 Jurok shield this morning in the case I need to consider a change (thanks for the confirmation on that). The rest of the fitment stuff I'll evaluate once I get some seat time on it; I've never even seen a K1600B in person, and I saw the GT/GTL in 2012 when they both hit the market, so this is a big leap for me to buy sight unseen :yikes:.

The bike already has a battery tender pigtail that was added by the dealership, and I've ordered a new battery maintainer from Granite Digital, which should arrive on Friday.

I won't touch the engine with mods since it will be fast enough for me out of the box.

I did pick up a BMW Motorrad denim Roadcrafter jacket on sale for 75% off, just $137 (vs. $555) before taxes and shipping. That arrived yesterday.

Now all I need is the actual motorcycle. :rotfl:

[maticCRO]

Originally Posted by itsrichierich

Anyone here watch MotoGP? WSBK?

Yes I doooo
Motogp is for me the most interesting sport, i do watch football, NHL, NBA, And all, a whole lot of sports, but man, Motogp is next level fun
Last year i went to Portimão to watch the race weekend, first day of training and Qualy was in my top 3 days in a life, hearing those beast with 280hp and 155kg is incredible, i literally heard them loud walking up to a track from half a mile. I plan on going to a race weekend motogp every 2years from now on, red bull ring in Austria in 2026or 2027, Mugello next and so on, there are a lot of them in Europe, plus weekend ticket is only 80€ i think
Cant wait for the new season in a few weeks.
I highly recommend you go watch it when they come to COTA, its a blast.

I sold my yamaha R7 4months ago, when i bought M4, because i was thinking "hm, bikes are dangerous and i managed to ride it for 3 years with no injuries, i might quit while im ahead and now i have M4 so it substitutes the bike nice", but i miss it every other day, so i will be probably buying a 2025 Ducati Panigale V2 in 2026 or latest in 2027,in Germany they have some great super low mille age examples for like 16 000€

[itsrichierich]

Originally Posted by maticCRO

Yes I doooo
Motogp is for me the most interesting sport, i do watch football, NHL, NBA, And all, a whole lot of sports, but man, Motogp is next level fun
Last year i went to Portimão to watch the race weekend, first day of training and Qualy was in my top 3 days in a life, hearing those beast with 280hp and 155kg is incredible, i literally heard them loud walking up to a track from half a mile. I plan on going to a race weekend motogp every 2years from now on, red bull ring in Austria in 2026or 2027, Mugello next and so on, there are a lot of them in Europe, plus weekend ticket is only 80€ i think
Cant wait for the new season in a few weeks.
I highly recommend you go watch it when they come to COTA, its a blast.

I sold my yamaha R7 4months ago, when i bought M4, because i was thinking "hm, bikes are dangerous and i managed to ride it for 3 years with no injuries, i might quit while im ahead and now i have M4 so it substitutes the bike nice", but i miss it every other day, so i will be probably buying a 2025 Ducati Panigale V2 in 2026 or latest in 2027,in Germany they have some great super low mille age examples for like 16 000€

So jealous! My wife and I looked into watching races overseas but with two kids, I could almost buy another track bike.

I have not watched COTA (my picture above shows my track bike at COTA) but I was able to watch the last race at Laguna. It was Marquez's rookie year, which he won that race and won the championship. I got a Shoei helmet signed by him that I've kept in a box. Maybe it will be worth something one day

This season and next season is really going to show who's fast and who isn't. But in the end, no one will come close as long as Marc Marquez is on the grid.

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Thanks for the list.

I've been eyeing the kickstand enlarger because I don't have much pavement around the house to begin with and my go-to rock got washed away by the flood in May - LOL. I was looking at the 7 Jurok shield this morning in the case I need to consider a change (thanks for the confirmation on that). The rest of the fitment stuff I'll evaluate once I get some seat time on it; I've never even seen a K1600B in person, and I saw the GT/GTL in 2012 when they both hit the market, so this is a big leap for me to buy sight unseen :yikes:.

The bike already has a battery tender pigtail that was added by the dealership, and I've ordered a new battery maintainer from Granite Digital, which should arrive on Friday. Attachment 3892992

I won't touch the engine with mods since it will be fast enough for me out of the box.

I did pick up a BMW Motorrad denim Roadcrafter jacket on sale for 75% off, just $137 (vs. $555) before taxes and shipping. That arrived yesterday.

Now all I need is the actual motorcycle. :rotfl:

Footpad extenders are mandatory on ANY BMW bike, IMHO-- I've got one on my GS as well. They're inexpensive and make a huge difference in stability when parking the bike.

My buddy *really* likes the shield, but recommends that you get the vent installed-- it helps with the airflow (something about high/low pressure around the shield, but I don't remember exactly).

One thing I'd *really* recommend are the footpeg extenders-- unless you're vertically challenged in the legs, I found the seating position to be quite cramped. Dropping the pegs an inch or inch and a half (I don't remember the exact dimensions) made a HUGE difference in comfort for me when I rode it.

It's a fantastic bike-- so enjoy.

...... even if it *isn't* a GS!

R.

[chassis]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Reposting...

So, my discussion with chassis these past few months rekindled my desire to look at getting a new machine after 26 great years with the Valkyrie. I started looking a few years ago and planned on a purchase in 2025. Then we had a river flood event in May 2025 that cost me basically the price of two new bikes to repair the aforementioned bridge, so I nixed the idea of a buying new scooter earlier this year. Then the chassis chronicles postings in this thread these past few months led to a "WTF, why not?" event.

Awaiting delivery. 28% off MSRP for a left-over, demonstrator, K1600B. Probably the last of the BMW naturally-aspirated in-line 6, manual transmission'd BMWs.

Attachment 3892809

(Dealership pic of my new scooter) - best I can do for now.

Beautiful machine! I love K-bikes.

I haven't ridden lately. That is a problem I need to fix! I am still in SFL so the weather is not an excuse.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Footpad extenders are mandatory on ANY BMW bike, IMHO-- I've got one on my GS as well. They're inexpensive and make a huge difference in stability when parking the bike.

My buddy *really* likes the shield, but recommends that you get the vent installed-- it helps with the airflow (something about high/low pressure around the shield, but I don't remember exactly).

One thing I'd *really* recommend are the footpeg extenders-- unless you're vertically challenged in the legs, I found the seating position to be quite cramped. Dropping the pegs an inch or inch and a half (I don't remember the exact dimensions) made a HUGE difference in comfort for me when I rode it.

It's a fantastic bike-- so enjoy.

...... even if it *isn't* a GS!

R.

Being a Nordic-Alpinian, I have a 6'1" torso sitting on a 5'7" bottom end, so a 33" seat height of a GS doesn't comfortably meet spec, so to speak. Never an issue in my young pup days, but now I prefer a sub 30" seat height. Peg to seat ratio may not be an issue for me.

TBH I've never been able to like the BMW Boxer engine. I've test ridden a few over the years and it's not grown on me. Same for Harley's big-twins. I think buying a FLCH Police Street Glide would be really neat, but I'm just used to the smooth Honda F6 engine and footpeg setup. The HD dealer in Big Sky, MT has 3 Police bikes for sale, all under $20K new inventory. The K1600B combines a lot of the attributes of the several bikes I've had in the past, namely a Kawasaki Concours (sport tourer), CBR1000F (liter-class sportbike), and the Valkyrie (bagger). I think I'll be happy with it.

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I think I'll be happy with it.

I **know** you'll be happy with it.

My buddy was a H-D type (although admittedly on the first-year production of the VRSCA V-Rod).

He wanted a new bike for a retirement present for himself- we went up to Sturgis and test rode all of the "big bike" H-D's, Indians, and whatever else we could find.

We test rode the BMW's because I wanted to ride the new 1300GS and he rode the K1600 as a lark.

He fell in love and never looked back.

I told him he'd never really ride the V-Rod again and I was right. It's sitting in his garage waiting for summer so he can sell it.

You're going to LOVE the bike!

R.

[Katsunaka]

I originally bought this bike in November of 2019, as shown in the blue/white fairings. Mostly stock 2008 Yamaha R6 with around 15k miles. Paid a whopping $1800 bucks for it then.


From 2019 to 2022, I changed it to the matte gray/black with red as shown in the collage at the top. Bunch of stuff done to it. Sold her in November of 2022 to a kid who couldn't hide his excitement about buying it. Paid me $6,000 bucks,never seen it or heard about the bike again.

July of 2025, in comes a certified letter that I had to go the post office and sign for. Peaks my curiosity and I go get it. Read the letter "You have until August 15th 2025 to come claim your 2008 Yamaha R6 or it will be forfeited"
Nah, I sold that thing. Couldn't have it back.

Go to impound lot, 2nd pic in the collage is how it was there. Stored in their bike garage by itself just forgotten about. They wanted $3200 bucks to spring it. Some back and forth, and I leave with it for $1800 bucks. Karma, coincidence, who the hell knows. Same price I originally paid for it in 2019, and other than the new half missing fairings, its the exact shape I sold it in.

Anyway, I brought it home. Fixed the damage it had, started installing new fairings, but stopped short of installing the sides. Knew I'd be yanking the motor over winter, so why install them to take em back off again? Also screw Yamaha for that tab on these fairings.

Motor was torn apart between thanksgiving and Christmas. Installed a used transmission, kid screwed up 2nd gear, IDFK how. Sent it out to be undercut before install. Split the cases and went to town. New YEC cams, adjustable cam gears, light clean up on the head to smooth the airways, thinner head gasket, and a stock rebuild on the rest.

Bike had 44k miles on it when I sold it. I put nearly 30k miles on it myself. I rode it everywhere all the time regardless. I wanted to refresh the old girl, and give it a few more upgrades that I couldn't do before.

I've currently got the bike in my dining room. My garage isn't insulated, so come winter time I prefer working in my house instead of freezing in the garage.

I'm keeping her forever this time around. Friends joked, that "if you love something let it go, and if it comes back it's meant to be" thats this bike.
I love it, I loved it. It hurt selling it, and I missed it. Never again.

Come February, I'm getting it dyno tuned and re-flashed. It was a canned flash the first time. I'm hoping for around 115+ whp.
With the velocity stacks, canned tune and other mods it eeked out 114whp.

We'll see when I take her to the dyno next month.

The kid who bought it, is spending 4 years in jail over his stupidity. Fleeing and eluding, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, terroristic threats, and some other stuff. The tow yard owner had a brother who was the arresting officer in this case. Hence how it landed at his tow yard, and not at one of the bigger companies, thankfully.

The kid, I call him that because he was 18. Only put about 1,000 miles on it during his "extended rental period" as I call it. Sold it for 6k, bought it back for 1800 bucks, I made $4200 bucks letting him borrow it for almost 3 years.

I will give the kid something, it was serviced at a Yamaha dealer. I popped into one out riding one day, and someone remembered it because of the wheels and forks. They did a valve adjustment, installed new tires, battery, and replaced all the fluids. So he did try to maintain it. Even if he was a sucker and took it to the dealer.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

I **know** you'll be happy with it.

My buddy was a H-D type (although admittedly on the first-year production of the VRSCA V-Rod).

He wanted a new bike for a retirement present for himself- we went up to Sturgis and test rode all of the "big bike" H-D's, Indians, and whatever else we could find.

We test rode the BMW's because I wanted to ride the new 1300GS and he rode the K1600 as a lark.

He fell in love and never looked back.

I told him he'd never really ride the V-Rod again and I was right. It's sitting in his garage waiting for summer so he can sell it.

You're going to LOVE the bike!

R.

Thanks for the confidence. I'm much looking forward to it. I've never bought any vehicle sight unseen, so I need all the validation I can get.

The K1600B is a bit of a risk taking, but I've eliminated the Goldwing, which is the only other 6-cylinder on the market. I do know that once I've had a 6-cylinder scooter, going to a V-twin or in-line 4 wouldn't be satisfying.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Katsunaka

I originally bought this bike in November of 2019, as shown in the blue/white fairings. Mostly stock 2008 Yamaha R6 with around 15k miles. Paid a whopping $1800 bucks for it then.

The kid who bought it, is spending 4 years in jail over his stupidity. Fleeing and eluding, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, terroristic threats, and some other stuff. The tow yard owner had a brother who was the arresting officer in this case. Hence how it landed at his tow yard, and not at one of the bigger companies, thankfully.

The kid, I call him that because he was 18. Only put about 1,000 miles on it during his "extended rental period" as I call it. Sold it for 6k, bought it back for 1800 bucks, I made $4200 bucks letting him borrow it for almost 3 years.

I will give the kid something, it was serviced at a Yamaha dealer. I popped into one out riding one day, and someone remembered it because of the wheels and forks. They did a valve adjustment, installed new tires, battery, and replaced all the fluids. So he did try to maintain it. Even if he was a sucker and took it to the dealer.

So, the kid ran from the police and crashed it?

[maticCRO]

Originally Posted by Katsunaka

I originally bought this bike in November of 2019, as shown in the blue/white fairings. Mostly stock 2008 Yamaha R6 with around 15k miles. Paid a whopping $1800 bucks for it then.


From 2019 to 2022, I changed it to the matte gray/black with red as shown in the collage at the top. Bunch of stuff done to it. Sold her in November of 2022 to a kid who couldn't hide his excitement about buying it. Paid me $6,000 bucks,never seen it or heard about the bike again.

July of 2025, in comes a certified letter that I had to go the post office and sign for. Peaks my curiosity and I go get it. Read the letter "You have until August 15th 2025 to come claim your 2008 Yamaha R6 or it will be forfeited"
Nah, I sold that thing. Couldn't have it back.

Go to impound lot, 2nd pic in the collage is how it was there. Stored in their bike garage by itself just forgotten about. They wanted $3200 bucks to spring it. Some back and forth, and I leave with it for $1800 bucks. Karma, coincidence, who the hell knows. Same price I originally paid for it in 2019, and other than the new half missing fairings, its the exact shape I sold it in.

Anyway, I brought it home. Fixed the damage it had, started installing new fairings, but stopped short of installing the sides. Knew I'd be yanking the motor over winter, so why install them to take em back off again? Also screw Yamaha for that tab on these fairings.

Motor was torn apart between thanksgiving and Christmas. Installed a used transmission, kid screwed up 2nd gear, IDFK how. Sent it out to be undercut before install. Split the cases and went to town. New YEC cams, adjustable cam gears, light clean up on the head to smooth the airways, thinner head gasket, and a stock rebuild on the rest.

Bike had 44k miles on it when I sold it. I put nearly 30k miles on it myself. I rode it everywhere all the time regardless. I wanted to refresh the old girl, and give it a few more upgrades that I couldn't do before.

I've currently got the bike in my dining room. My garage isn't insulated, so come winter time I prefer working in my house instead of freezing in the garage.

I'm keeping her forever this time around. Friends joked, that "if you love something let it go, and if it comes back it's meant to be" thats this bike.
I love it, I loved it. It hurt selling it, and I missed it. Never again.

Come February, I'm getting it dyno tuned and re-flashed. It was a canned flash the first time. I'm hoping for around 115+ whp.
With the velocity stacks, canned tune and other mods it eeked out 114whp.

We'll see when I take her to the dyno next month.

The kid who bought it, is spending 4 years in jail over his stupidity. Fleeing and eluding, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, terroristic threats, and some other stuff. The tow yard owner had a brother who was the arresting officer in this case. Hence how it landed at his tow yard, and not at one of the bigger companies, thankfully.

The kid, I call him that because he was 18. Only put about 1,000 miles on it during his "extended rental period" as I call it. Sold it for 6k, bought it back for 1800 bucks, I made $4200 bucks letting him borrow it for almost 3 years.

I will give the kid something, it was serviced at a Yamaha dealer. I popped into one out riding one day, and someone remembered it because of the wheels and forks. They did a valve adjustment, installed new tires, battery, and replaced all the fluids. So he did try to maintain it. Even if he was a sucker and took it to the dealer.

HANDS down the best looking R6 model they ever made.
And what an epic story hahahaa, bike did a full circle.
Enjoy

[chassis]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Thanks for the confidence. I'm much looking forward to it. I've never bought any vehicle sight unseen, so I need all the validation I can get.

The K1600B is a bit of a risk taking, but I've eliminated the Goldwing, which is the only other 6-cylinder on the market. I do know that once I've had a 6-cylinder scooter, going to a V-twin or in-line 4 wouldn't be satisfying.

I bought my current Cayenne S and Triumph Tiger Sport 660 both sight unseen. Research, homework and trusting the other party are keys to success!

Enjoy the K1600! Looking forward to reading your review.

[chassis]

Coral Cove Beach, Jupiter Island FL

82F and sunny!

[Katsunaka]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

So, the kid ran from the police and crashed it?

From what I understand, yes. From what I saw with the damage, laid down in the grass and mostly came out OK. Few ripped wires/connectors, along with the rectifier. Replaced the wiring harness, and rectifier.

Originally Posted by maticCRO

HANDS down the best looking R6 model they ever made.
And what an epic story hahahaa, bike did a full circle.
Enjoy

I feel its the best 600 on the market. Yamaha knew they killed in, its why it really only added electronics and different fairings in 17+.

The bike missed me, like I missed it. Some miracle put it back where it belonged, and it's where she'll stay now. Can't wait til the summer comes around and I'm able to crack that throttle wide open. Just hear it scream for air

[SlowX6M]

Originally Posted by chassis

Nice K-bike! What is the story and history of it?

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

YES!!! And please provide a review. I moved from the idea of buying a new Goldwing to the K1600B. I did not like the Goldwing (and I have a 1999 flat-6 Valkyrie).

Just saw this. Love the big K16, mostly use it to ride two up with my wife. In my opinion it is the best tourer bike out there - the size, the comfort, the features, and the electronic rear and electronic front monoshock suspension with basically no nose dive. The Goldwing comes close, but I like the taller seating position on the GTL version of the K16, and the sportier dynamics. But you can't go wrong with either one.

I prefer the GTL version over the B, it has that taller seating position and sportier European ergonomics, while the B tries to be like these low rider Harleys, and just feels off.

[SlowX6M]

See my comments in bold.

Originally Posted by flybigjet

My buddy has the 2023 Grand America version of that bike.

It's a hoot.

Here are a few suggestions if you decide to "farkle" the bike..... All are highly recommended:

Remus pipes Not worth it, all the exhaust I've seen for the K16 make almost no difference in sound or performance.


7 Jurok shield w/ vent I've tried every windshield on my K16, from the biggest to trying to ride without the windshield, and ended up with the smallest stock GT version windshield. Least buffeting.

Road 6 tires Road 6 GT, not regular Road 6. Absolute must.

BT flash tune I got in on my bike, and didn't feel any difference, not worth it IMO. I also have BT tune on my SMC690, made a huuuuge difference.

Sprinter air filter

T-Rex front & rear crash bars
Foot peg lowering brackets
Side-stand enlarger Not necessary at all. However I much recommend foot brake enlarger, as well as shifter enlarger.

Yellow fog light covers
Grip Puppies
Shift peg extender
Brake pedal extender absolute must
Battery side covers
Oil cooler cover
Battery tender connector

R.

[SlowX6M]

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by SlowX6M

Just saw this. Love the big K16, mostly use it to ride two up with my wife. In my opinion it is the best tourer bike out there - the size, the comfort, the features, and the electronic rear and electronic front monoshock suspension with basically no nose dive. The Goldwing comes close, but I like the taller seating position on the GTL version of the K16, and the sportier dynamics. But you can't go wrong with either one.

I prefer the GTL version over the B, it has that taller seating position and sportier European ergonomics, while the B tries to be like these low rider Harleys, and just feels off.

Thanks for the inputs. I'll have to read more intently as I've not seen where the GT/GTL has better ride and handling dynamics than the B or the B Grand America. Maybe the shock valving and spring rates are different(?). I've not dug into the rake and trail numbers either. I like the look of the B better than the GT and at my now advancing age prefer to have the slightly lower seat height to my advantage. The B is going to be my solo cruiser and I'll keep the Valkyrie Interstate if my wife decides to ride with me in the future. While my Valkyrie (1st gen) is based off the 4th gen Goldwing, Honda really did a great job at converting the Wing's chassis from the luxoboat tourer the Wing is to the power cruiser (with bags and top case for the Interstate) that is the Valkyrie. The flat-6 is cammed differently than the Wing's engine and uses 6 carbs vs. the Wing's single carb intake. With the current Wing there really is no difference between the Tour model and the base ("bagger") model other than the top case is removed.

As I indicated earlier, I did not get a chance to test fit the B because the nearest sample was 4 to 5 hours away either in Pennsylvania or North Carolina. I did test ride the Wing and disappointingly did not like it. The Wing's engine is too tame and the ergonomics of the controls is just ridiculous. I'd prefer not to need to have a smart phone integrated into the platform but it seems both Honda and BMW believe it should be that way. But BMW with the controller wheel and menu button eliminates about 15 small buttons the Wing has on the left grip and bank of buttons on the tank. I really don't plan to fuss with the phone much, if at all, and that's where the difference is between the B and the Wing, whether one uses the phone or not, on the Wing the critical controls for high beam and turn signals are way too small. On my Wing test ride, I could not find the turn signal switch and the beam switch sticks out of the back of the grip and looks just prone to breakage (in my POV). If one chooses not to use the phone, the controls are really unaffected for the most part and are near normal as compared to a non-phone-integrated bike.

All good in theory until the B gets here and I ride it. Good news is I've never ridden a K1600 in any form, so the B will be my only experience with the K1600 series, so I'll not know any better (or worse).

Apologies for the long-winded post...

[SlowX6M]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Thanks for the inputs. I'll have to read more intently as I've not seen where the GT/GTL has better ride and handling dynamics than the B or the B Grand America. Maybe the shock valving and spring rates are different(?). I've not dug into the rake and trail numbers either. I like the look of the B better than the GT and at my now advancing age prefer to have the slightly lower seat height to my advantage. The B is going to be my solo cruiser and I'll keep the Valkyrie Interstate if my wife decides to ride with me in the future. While my Valkyrie (1st gen) is based off the 4th gen Goldwing, Honda really did a great job at converting the Wing's chassis from the luxoboat tourer the Wing is to the power cruiser (with bags and top case for the Interstate) that is the Valkyrie. The flat-6 is cammed differently than the Wing's engine and uses 6 carbs vs. the Wing's single carb intake. With the current Wing there really is no difference between the Tour model and the base ("bagger") model other than the top case is removed.

As I indicated earlier, I did not get a chance to test fit the B because the nearest sample was 4 to 5 hours away either in Pennsylvania or North Carolina. I did test ride the Wing and disappointingly did not like it. The Wing's engine is too tame and the ergonomics of the controls is just ridiculous. I'd prefer not to need to have a smart phone integrated into the platform but it seems both Honda and BMW believe it should be that way. But BMW with the controller wheel and menu button eliminates about 15 small buttons the Wing has on the left grip and bank of buttons on the tank. I really don't plan to fuss with the phone much, if at all, and that's where the difference is between the B and the Wing, whether one uses the phone or not, on the Wing the critical controls for high beam and turn signals are way too small. On my Wing test ride, I could not find the turn signal switch and the beam switch sticks out of the back of the grip and looks just prone to breakage (in my POV). If one chooses not to use the phone, the controls are really unaffected for the most part and are near normal as compared to a non-phone-integrated bike.

All good in theory until the B gets here and I ride it. Good news is I've never ridden a K1600 in any form, so the B will be my only experience with the K1600 series, so I'll not know any better (or worse).

Apologies for the long-winded post...

I don't think there is any difference in the suspension, its just the overall riding position and general ergonomics. GT is supposed to be the sportiest, while B and GA have more relaxed ergonomics. I believe they also have a top speed limiter at around 110mph, due to some issues with air dynamics that cause high speed instability.

Overall, they are absolutely amazing bikes, best in class. Only bad thing about them is they all tend to pull left when you let go of the bar, if you experience this with your bike, don't be alarmed, its perfectly normal. The theory is they have the weight of the single side swing arm and the driveshaft on the left, which causes some imbalance.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by SlowX6M

I don't think there is any difference in the suspension, its just the overall riding position and general ergonomics. GT is supposed to be the sportiest, while B and GA have more relaxed ergonomics. I believe they also have a top speed limiter at around 110mph, due to some issues with air dynamics that cause high speed instability.

Overall, they are absolutely amazing bikes, best in class. Only bad thing about them is they all tend to pull left when you let go of the bar, if you experience this with your bike, don't be alarmed, its perfectly normal. The theory is they have the weight of the single side swing arm and the driveshaft on the left, which causes some imbalance.

I'll state the obvious, which is the floorboards cause the instability issue. Without yet riding it, I am currently of the consideration to remove the floorboards. And the Shift-Pro thing seems like a gimmick in my book. TBH, I would have ordered a K1600B without the bagger package, but it seems BMW doesn't build them without the package for the North American market and dealers will not order them without the bagger package. It will be interesting to see if I approach a dealer to remove the Shift-Pro (after I have removed the floorboards) and reflash the ECU to the non-bagger package configuration, which removes the Shift-Pro code and would bump the speed limiter back up to 124 MPH.

[SlowX6M]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I'll state the obvious, which is the floorboards cause the instability issue. Without yet riding it, I am currently of the consideration to remove the floorboards. And the Shift-Pro thing seems like a gimmick in my book. TBH, I would have ordered a K1600B without the bagger package, but it seems BMW doesn't build them without the package for the North American market and dealers will not order them without the bagger package. It will be interesting to see if I approach a dealer to remove the Shift-Pro (after I have removed the floorboards) and reflash the ECU to the non-bagger package configuration, which removes the Shift-Pro code and would bump the speed limiter back up to 124 MPH.

I can't stand forward floor boards, I like mid pegs. Legs forward position offloads your legs, which are designed to support your body weight, and loads your lower back instead. I get tired after an hour on classic cruisers with forward controls, but I can ride a bike with mid controls for a whole day without feeling tired.

I think with what you're intending, the GT would've been a better version? Removable bags and no floorboards.

[flybigjet]

IIRC the "captain's chair" had something to do with the instability?

You can remove the chair and topcase. My buddy found someone online who makes a 3-D printed cover w/ lights that replaces where the chair and topcase mount. It looks great.

R.