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01-14-2022, 09:12 AM | #1 | |
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New Generation Of Combustion Engines Coming Says BMW Board Member (Interview)
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01-14-2022, 12:24 PM | #2 |
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That's a breath of fresh air that ICE aren't dead at BMW. I think they are doing it correctly. Having posted records in 2021 I think BMW knows a thing or two about the industry.
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01-14-2022, 12:36 PM | #3 | |
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I'm glad that they're not putting all their eggs into EV basket. ICE will still have their use in vehicles for as long as fuel is available and plenty of efficiency & power improvements are to yet to come. Last edited by XsltAnalyst; 01-14-2022 at 12:44 PM.. |
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This was a great read. I think it speaks volumes to the Tesla fan bois that scream BMW sucks and doesn't know what they are doing with ev's. I just wish the exterior styling of the newer cars wasn't so disappointing (to my eyes).
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01-14-2022, 12:59 PM | #6 |
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Rightfully so!
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01-14-2022, 01:22 PM | #7 |
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Good read.
In summary: - most people will go with the herd and get an EV. BTW, I'm not calling EV adopters a herd, just saying that a typical regular car owner who doesn't even know what car they are driving, will just drive what's on the market and that will be increasingly EV saturated. - this leaves ICE options that will have to meet strict emission standards and consume less fuel still. - demand for fossil fuels will decrease and as a result, we will never get even close to "peak oil" and petrol will be cheap So, the more people around me switch to EV, the cheaper my modern ICE car will be to drive! Yay! p.s. We all know the above logic will be destroyed by rich folks using fossil fuels to fly to orbit and back just for kicks. |
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What a fantastic breath of fresh air from BMW.
I especially liked this little bit: "That's why we're working on a new generation of engines: gasoline, diesel, six-cylinder, eight-cylinder". Seems to indicate the V8 will survive for future vehicles. |
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01-14-2022, 02:07 PM | #12 |
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Not dead but make no mistake ICE buyers will continue to subsidize BEV leasees. Don't expect great lease deals on ICE either.
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We will need the state-of-the-art internal combustion engine for a few more years to effectively reduce CO2 emissions in the passenger car sector globally.
What a logic... Last edited by LOW4LYF; 01-14-2022 at 02:29 PM.. |
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... but we'll need to pour out a glass of synthetic 0W-30 for the V-12's.
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01-14-2022, 03:21 PM | #17 |
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Good to see BMW developing the ICE engines to reduce the Co2 emissions, but lets hope they have the resources left to develop BEV's and other new drivetrains without the ICE taking to much of those resources.
But again anyone who knows a thing or two about this knows that ICE cars will be with us for quite some time still while some country's will outright ban the sales of new ICE after 2030 and upwards other country's without BEV infrastructure still needs personal transport and if that transport is ICE engines with minimal emissions the more the merrier of those new engines. But i don't believe the board member is correct in his assessment of fuels becoming cheaper for ICE owners if anything this will be controlled by demand and supply if the demand lowers for each year simply oil companies wont produce petrol/diesel in such large quantities that it will be cheaper if anything it will get a bit more expensive but probably going to be reduced in such a way that it will be like with BEV infrastructure now they will simply switch places getting petrol/diesel will be harder to come by while BEV stations or other environmental fuel types stations will be abundant. But make no mistake as much as governments around the world wants to phase out fossils fuels they do indeed love that sweet tax/vat revenue they get from it. And BEV drivers will probably be taxed by some form of miles/kilometre tax so the government wont loose to much money on the loss of petrol/diesel sales. That won't happen in the next 5-8 years but surely in 10 years or so governments will use some form of argument "Oh well drivers of BEVs need to pay this tax for upkeep of roads or the tires on the cars lets loose this particle and you need to pay tax for it" That's how it always is, but i can imagine that cities who at times have issues with smog will appreciate more clear days and fresh air to breath in on those sunny days. I Remember being in China 10-12 years ago while i could wake up one day and the hotel room was filled with this thick heavy air to breath and then a rain front came by and washed the smog away while making the buildings and streets covered in this dark brownish rain due to the rain particles bringing down the smog. So i guess cities in the future will be a lot nice in that term.
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B58 is getting a new revision. S68 is basically a hybridized N63. All of them will be good enough to satisfy EU7 and remain in production for the next 8-10 years. Don't expect anything better than that - the future is electric.
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All this because some megalomaniacs like klaus schwab want to tax the poor with their made up emission reductions goals and reduce 'carbon' output, meanwhile they fly around jetsetting the world without a care.
But i am happy we can shut the EV fanbois who love to say ITS THE FUTURE! Hahaha |
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01-14-2022, 04:43 PM | #21 |
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I'm sure this interview was scrutinized by the corporate BMW layers word by word.
It won't make a lot of economic sense to do really develop a whole new ICE generation, I think a reasonable evolution (with "new cylinderhead designs") and (partly) hybridization is what we'll be getting, but let's see. |
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This would further reduce the consumption/emission and in combination with the variable valve timing and lift, they can allow their ICEs to run efficient over a much broader range of usage regimes. Another possibility would be the variabele compression ratio enabling cylinder head, further enhancing the efficiency over the entire range of regimes while further enhancing output at high regimes. Nevertheless, when they would do this, it's a serious effort/investment to introduce this on a soon to be outdated technology. |
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