05-13-2024, 08:59 PM | #1 |
Ring Leader of G8X Haters
25281
Rep 8,764
Posts |
The IONIQ 5 N is a Mindf**k of a Car - My Review
The IONIQ 5 N is one hell of a car, and a very perplexing one at that. This last week, I was given the opportunity to try out this new “one of a kind” performance EV SUV out, and I have to say, it may honestly be one of the most interesting vehicles I have driven within the last few years. And yes, I can already hear the nay sayers heading straight to their keyboards to post their objections. But even if you don't like EVs, its hard to deny the amount of effort and impressive work that went into the engineering of this vehicle, along with its breadth of capabilities and achievements on track. And without this thread divulging into the circular conversations and off-optic nonsense that most EV threads on here come to, I thought I’d share my first-hand experience behind the wheel of the IONIQ 5 N. As we all know, when it comes to EVs they perform the mundane a-to-b tasks incredibly well. Smooth and silent operation, no NVH or shifting, and abundance of power all create a great experience. We have an IONIQ 6 in the family, and that is one fantastic car when traveling about the city. But it is not fun in the slightest, and that's ok. So, how does a heavy battery electric car gain a soul? The crazy geniuses at Hyundai's N division (in particular ex BMW-M boss Albert Biermann) thought of that and gave us their take on a performance EV unlike any other. The Stats For those unfamiliar, the IONIQ 5 N is Hyundai’s performance EV SUV. It has a maximum of 641 horsepower and 568lb-ft torque when using N Grin Boost (NGB), and at all other times 601 horsepower and 545lb-ft torque. It has an 84kWh battery capable of 221 EPA estimated miles and uses an 800-volt architecture. Hyundai claims the I5N weighs around 4800lbs and will hit 60 in 3.25 seconds. The Looks Before getting to how it drives though, how about the looks? I know the crowd on here may be split on Hyundai’s design direction and overall “styling” (although the grass isn't much greener in Munich), but I think the I5N looks the part. The regular I5 looks fantastic. It has a retro-modern flair, with clear inspiration from 80’s hot hatches (particularly that of the Delta Integrale) and with that, I think that allows it to be the best-looking EV outside of maybe a Taycan, which is easily double the price. The I5N takes it up a notch to 11 with beefy fender flares, a lower and wider stance, real vents for aero, as well as different trim and a more aerodynamic rear spoiler on top of many other changes. And of course, this one being spec’d in Soultronic Orange means it will have no trouble standing out from the crowd. Again, I know looks are subjective, but I dig it. Inside things are much more tame. It receives the usual I5 bits and pieces, although receives a revised fixed center console, as well as blue N trim about the doors and upper dash. Materials are generally nice, with most harder plastics down below. The N specific steering wheel is fantastic in its design and usability. It features perforated leather that is just the right amount of thickness without being overdone, and some additional controls, including a drive mode toggle, NGB toggle for the full fat 641hp, and two programmable N buttons below 9 and 3. Replacing the regular seats are N bucket seats with the right amount of bolstering and padding, as well as heating and ventilation. Behind the Wheel Starting the I5N is like any other EV. Press the button and a start up chime tells you you're ready to go. Its dead silent. I began my journey on the highway and decided to use eco mode first. Here it’s just like the regular I5, albeit more powerful. Smooth, silent, and easy. Regenerative brakes are excellent and incredibly customizable to fit the driver’s preference. Getting off the highway and getting onto some fun backroads though, eco mode was far from my first choice. I first hit the left N button, which I had programmed to go through my custom N modes. I mainly left it in the following sequence of settings: Motor sport plus, steering sport, suspension normal, e-LSD sport plus, ESC sport, and NAS+ (sound) in Ignition. There’s a multitude of settings and these are only just the beginning of customizations. I then hit the right N button to turn on the simulated dual-clutch gearbox. Yes, you heard that right, this EV has a simulated gearbox. Hyundai’s answer to making EVs fun? Make it like an ICE car. It may seem stupid at first, and an impossible task to replicate that of a performance ICE car, but it does it quite convincingly. The moment the drive mode is switched, suddenly the car provides an audible rumble through the speakers, as if the ignition has been started in a gas car and sitting at idle. And I don’t know if it was just the sound altering my brain or if it was truly there, but the car suddenly felt as if it had the smallest amount of vibration to it as well. I selected the left paddle to set it to first gear and the gauges displayed a rev counter with a redline towards 7700rpm, and the car pumped in audio that sounded like the Elantra N I drove two months prior. From there I floored the throttle and was thrusted into the back of my seat. This thing is quick as f**k. I found myself at the end of first gear and the car held the gear, waiting for me to manually shift into second. The gearbox mimics that of an ICE car perfectly honestly. Each gear had its own ratio, no automatic shifting, and the car actually bangs on upshifts and will lug if in high gear at low speeds. Its amazing how they were able to marry the software and powertrain together to provide an experience that I would never associate with an EV. I loved it. The shifts were hard in the best way, and the car begs to be driven aggressively. But a great transmission is nothing without an engine paired to it. Here the I5N again mimics the Elantra’s boosted 4-cylinder turbo, albeit much quicker thanks to its motors’ instant horsepower and torque numbers. The sound is almost identical, down to even the pops and bangs on shifts and throttle lift off when high in the rev range. To be honest, with how much engine noise is piped through the speakers of many ICE cars, even those more than double the price, the I5N still feels similar to those cars. And outside the car, its nothing but silent unless crawling at parking lot speeds. I would say the one thing missing is the vibration or feeling of something going on under the hood of the car, but its honestly doesn’t take away much from the experience. The “motor” in this thing is relentless, it has power for days, and pushes you into your seat with every stab of the throttle. And that throttle is incredibly reactive, as the torque is instant after all. Even with the simulated transmission which would technically lower the feeling of power as it would have to build through its ratios, it’s just quick regardless. It’s always ready for more. If you hit the NGB button on the steering wheel for the full power, it does sadly turn off the simulated transmission, and provides 10 seconds of boost. And somehow, this already quick car becomes quicker. Once the boost ends (or the button is hit again to cancel it) it sends you back into the simulated gearbox. As you push the car, it loads power through the corners incredibly well, with its Pirelli’s sticking to the pavement, although still allowing a nice amount of predictable slip when you do desire to get the back end out. And with the amount of power this thing has, you can certainly do that. Steering is generally good and direct. It’s not the most talkative of racks, but I found it was best in its “middle” sport mode, as it wasn’t too heavy and didn't leave me clueless. Suspension was mostly decent. With large 21’s and a heavy curb weight, the I5N is stiff, but not overly so, but it definitely won’t soak up the bumps too much. Over broken pavement it’s definitely more noticeable, however when on a smooth or decent road, or just cruising in eco mode, it is acceptable. Weight is definitely a factor for this car, along with all EVs. Luckily the weight is lower in the chassis which does help keep the car feeling stable and planted, but it won’t ever trick you into it being a nimble sports car. It feels just as heavy as any other performance SUV, but a little bit more noticeable in the corners. One interesting thing about it not having an engine, is less feeling of guilt when it comes to using that power and pushing the top of the rev range, especially when it comes to back-to-back launches and full throttle driving. Maybe it’s just a mental thing, but I feel like I can fully push the powertrain of this car, as after all, if I hit the rev limiter, it’s really just software that’s limiting me, and I'm not doing any harm to the motor. Speaking of launches, Hyundai claims a 3.25 second 0 to 60 run for the I5N. With that in mind, I tried launching the car on various roads and in various modes using the launch timer built into the car’s N screen. I first tried brake boosting it with the transmission on and in automatic mode. Here I was able to get 3.39 seconds on relatively sticky pavement. Turn on manual mode, and with my best shifting abilities pushing towards redline, I got 3.59. Using the built in launch control (which uses the NGB and full power), the car was at 60 in 3.18 seconds, beating Hyundai’s claim. And this was easily repeatable. Regardless of launch mode, I could hear the tires lighting up as this car is just so damn powerful. Even while in first gear, when slamming the throttle this thing left marks on the road. And if that weren’t enough, there is also an N Torque Distribution screen. Here the car can send all of its power to the rear wheels. In my testing though, I still think there was some power sent to the front. Technology Galore There is a plethora of modes and settings that can be changed, honestly too many. Without reading the owner’s manual, the modes outside of the general motor, steering, and suspension settings can be a bit confusing. The most confusing aspect is mainly the matrix of settings in which these modes work. For example, when using NGB, N Drift Mode, or N Torque Distribution, the transmission must be turned off. If you try to activate these with the transmission on, the car will display a message saying that the car must be in N mode with ESC in sport, etc. But it doesn’t say explicitly to turn off the transmission, which can leave someone easily confused or frustrated. Luckily, most of these functions are just added benefits that are more so used in short periods of time, whereas the transmission would be used for the majority of the drive. Luckily, unlike the many drive modes, the rest of the infotainment system is incredibly user friendly, and modern looking. Going the Distance And then we get to range, the sore spot of any EV discussion. The EPA rates the I5N at 221 miles. This of course can be impacted by anything such as AC/heating, weather, acts of god, etc. For my first drive in the car, I started with 100% heading from Northern Virginia towards the Baltimore area. A 65-mile highway drive (65-75mph) in eco mode with the HVAC running took the range down 25%. Blasting through about 70 miles of back-roading with aggressive driving in N mode and the windows down (no HVAC, just seat/steering heating) left me with about 90 miles left on my charge. So, in my case, I could easily get back home to the charger. But this was also a very nice day and using eco mode on the highway probably helped. This is definitely a car that is dependent on its location. Living closer to backroads and having a home charger, is key. I took the car over to an Electrify America station and juiced it from 30% to 80% in about 15 minutes. Enough time to stretch my legs, use the restroom, and listen to a song or two before getting back on the road. This is definitely not a road trip car unless you have patience, but at least it does have one of the fastest charging curves in the industry, and when driven with more mixed use, I’m willing to bet it could easily do more than 200 miles. The Price Last, we get to the price. At $66,000, you may be saying to yourself “$60k?!? For a Hyundai!” To that I say, look at our current economy, but in all serious matters, yes that is not chump change. But, in the land of EVs, to me, this car is in a class of one. Its closest competitor (and mechanical twin) the Kia EV6 GT is priced similarly but lacks the charm and charisma of the I5N. The Model 3 Performance was just updated so I can't speak on it, but that is about $54,000 and probably the best value in its class, but its then also a Tesla, so there will be many ups and downs from the fantastic Supercharger network to questionable build quality. Like the Kia EV6 GT though it has good handling, but lacks a personality. There are the luxury alternatives if you’re willing to spend more. The BMW i4 M50 is next up at a hair under $70,000 starting, and the Porsche Taycan is close to six figures and that's just scratching the surface before applying the Porsche tax. Both offer very polished handling, and pretty nice cabins, but what they make up for in handling prowess, they lose in feel as they are just very clinical and lack the care-free and rowdy attitude of the Hyundai. Of all the performance EVs I’ve tested, from the Tesla Model 3, Model S Plaid, i4 M50, and Taycan Turbo, this easily beats them all hands down when it comes to fun. Each of those other cars are nice in their own rights, but I’d rather spec them in their most comfortable forms rather than their performance level trims/packages. The great thing about the I5N is that it is truly a dual personality. It can carve through a backroad and get your heart racing while even providing feedback in numerous areas through its simulated engine and gearbox. Or, it can settle down, and be a quiet EV commuter to get your groceries or pick up your kids in. Conclusion So, in the end, this car is quite a confusing proposition, and it’s definitely for a very niche buyer. From what I’ve heard, Hyundai knows this, and plans to allocate very little of these cars so they don’t end up sitting on dealer lots. But, if you do have a home charger, love the EV lifestyle and hate spending money on gas, but want something more fun and different from the crowd, while offering the flexibility of comfort and sport, the IONIQ 5 N is one hell of an experience, and will easily change the future of performance EVs for the better. Thanks for reading! Last edited by stein_325i; 05-13-2024 at 09:04 PM.. |
Appreciate
35
Burrcold6343.00 SteVTEC412.50 jessejericho481.00 Arcades8701.50 Th3DarkSide433.00 E46ZHP257.00 gblansten2447.00 T0RM3NT4523.50 DFW_M1769.00 freakystyly3536.50 o_g513.00 Innovade97.50 pbar1445.00 nerdogray1456.50 Davil6850.50 xander_g1073.50 rcaso26335.50 dreamingat30fps5901.50 radm169.00 tigermack494.00 NickyC19170.50 B58-M340iX247.00 StradaRedlands6414.50 pixelcort45.00 DS_BMW1712.00 pz6193325.00 DmaxBMW53.50 Gautam714.00 1heckinboi53.00 jmack548.50 Esteban53216.50 RCtennis3811493.00 DieselDiner505.50 Hartside301.50 dopper993527.00 |
05-13-2024, 09:18 PM | #2 |
Brigadier General
6343
Rep 4,559
Posts |
Awesome review!!
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive | 2022 Audi Q7
Gone: 2022 Audi RS5 | 2020 BMW M340i | 2019 Audi RS5 |
Appreciate
1
stein_325i25280.50 |
05-13-2024, 09:19 PM | #3 |
Ring Leader of G8X Haters
25281
Rep 8,764
Posts |
|
05-13-2024, 09:20 PM | #4 |
Lieutenant
413
Rep 514
Posts |
Great review! Very interesting car for sure.
__________________
2022 G05 X5 40i Phytonic Blue / Ivory | 2011 E93 335i Deep Sea Blue / Oyster | 2012 E70 X5d Deep Sea Blue / Sand Beige (ret)
2018 Chevy Suburban Premier 4x4, Pepperdust / Cocoa, Adaptive Cruise, HUD, 3.42 gears (my DD & full circus long-hauler) |
Appreciate
1
stein_325i25280.50 |
05-13-2024, 10:01 PM | #5 |
Colonel
2098
Rep 2,494
Posts |
nice review. this is the one to buy if you're in the market it seems.
i read this as a drivers EV. the design is so cool without being too flashy. |
Appreciate
1
stein_325i25280.50 |
05-13-2024, 10:50 PM | #6 |
Lieutenant Colonel
2089
Rep 1,867
Posts |
I can’t believe an electric Hyundai costs $68k. You can get a used 911 for that much. I paid less for my Panamera Turbo S plus a 3 year warranty. Who is taking loans at $1200-1500/month on a Hyundai? Insanity.
|
Appreciate
6
|
05-14-2024, 02:57 AM | #7 |
General
18983
Rep 19,612
Posts |
On topic, I'd just rather have a piston engine with a real gearset transmission and a real clutch pedal and a real gear selector. And really refuel it to 100% charge in 5 minutes.
Having to spend any sort of time pushing buttons on a screen to get it into fake ICE mode is too taxing. Real reality is still good. Fake beer just sucks too. Good review though. Your time taken to publish it is much appreciated. |
Appreciate
6
|
05-14-2024, 03:48 AM | #8 | |
Brigadier General
3160
Rep 4,020
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
4
|
05-14-2024, 06:53 AM | #9 | |
Lieutenant
317
Rep 440
Posts
Drives: 2007 BMW 328xi E92 6mt swap
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: New Jersey
|
Quote:
|
|
05-14-2024, 07:15 AM | #10 |
Lieutenant General
5720
Rep 11,239
Posts |
That would be a several year old, out of warranty Panamerica Turbo S?
|
Appreciate
1
RCtennis3811493.00 |
05-14-2024, 12:46 PM | #12 |
Lieutenant Colonel
2089
Rep 1,867
Posts |
Yes, but you can buy extended warranty if you’re worried about repair cost. That’s what I did. Either way $68k for any Hyundai is insane. There are so many great used cars available in that price range. I mean you can get a used CPO Taycan 4S for that price.
|
Appreciate
1
murderspice936.50 |
05-14-2024, 12:52 PM | #13 | |
In The Rain
8702
Rep 6,507
Posts
Drives: '24 GT4RS, '24 Macan GTS
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: SoCal
|
Quote:
This isn’t out of the ordinary. Those of us who knows cars, would probably find this more of a mind f*** than anything but at least one brand is trying but also do their best to keep the price down. You sure as heck don’t see German companies do that.
__________________
'24 Porsche Cayman GT4RS Arctic Grey "Alice"
'24 Porsche Macan GTS Dolomite Silver "Gina" |
|
Appreciate
2
jessejericho481.00 pixelcort45.00 |
05-14-2024, 01:11 PM | #14 |
Brigadier General
3165
Rep 3,619
Posts |
Used cars? Ew. A lot of people don't do used cars.
|
Appreciate
1
RCtennis3811493.00 |
05-14-2024, 01:28 PM | #15 |
Brigadier General
3160
Rep 4,020
Posts |
You really should compare the price for a used Hyundai Vs everything else. Not a valid comparison otherwise!
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-14-2024, 01:37 PM | #16 | |
General
18983
Rep 19,612
Posts |
Quote:
Last edited by Efthreeoh; 07-06-2024 at 07:32 AM.. |
|
05-14-2024, 01:39 PM | #17 |
Colonel
2008
Rep 2,756
Posts |
|
Appreciate
2
stein_325i25280.50 jessejericho481.00 |
05-14-2024, 01:48 PM | #18 | |
Major General
1769
Rep 6,663
Posts |
Quote:
Plus…very different vehicles. |
|
Appreciate
2
SYT_Shadow11848.00 RCtennis3811493.00 |
05-14-2024, 01:50 PM | #19 | |
Moving on
521
Rep 387
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2011 Blk M3 ESS VT2 625/ES Race *Sold*
2018 MW F82 ZCP 6spd *Sold* 23 M550ix (Aurora) *Sold* 22 CT5V Blackwing (Ruby) |
|
Appreciate
1
eugenebmw2137.00 |
05-14-2024, 05:14 PM | #20 |
Lieutenant Colonel
2089
Rep 1,867
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-14-2024, 05:17 PM | #21 | |
Lieutenant Colonel
2089
Rep 1,867
Posts |
Quote:
Also, 911 maintenance isn't that expensive. I've had 7 of them and never had to do anything but routine maintenance and tires. Oil change is $200. The big 40k service is $1200-1500. If you're worried about repairs, buy CPO or get a Fidelity Platinum warranty. |
|
Appreciate
3
|
05-14-2024, 05:35 PM | #22 | |
Forced Induction Connoisseur
1158
Rep 898
Posts
Drives: 23 X5MC / 23 720s
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: AZ
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2023 BMW X3MC [0.00]
2023 Mclaren 720s [0.00] 2005 Honda S2000 [0.00] 2023 BMW X5MC [0.00] 1964 Ford Mustang [0.00] 1968 Pontiac GTO [0.00] |
Quote:
__________________
Oy vey, look at all these shekels
|
|
Appreciate
2
dizz81521.00 Leucosticte317.00 |
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|