Short Shifter request

Kcc · 04-18-2012, 05:35 PM

Hi there, I am looking for input on which short shifter to go with. I know there are OEM, UUC (EVO3), AA S1...is there anything I have missed?

I don't know much about SS, (none actually). So far I have searched on the info:

-plastic ball joint isn't as good as metal.
-1st to 2nd gear isn't smooth with the OEM
-The UUC doesn't fit that good
-Installation is done inside the car and not under.

is all those reading I have had true? Which brand would be the best bet to get? Does the SS come with only the stick part or with the base too? I am leaning toward the AA S1 right now. Also I should be getting the SS from local vendor due to tax and shipping included for less trouble.

Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

N55 2011 135i

Kcc

PA135i · 04-18-2012, 09:19 PM

I have the BMW performance SSK. I like the new shift knob and how it shifts. It's not too short. I have no trouble 1st to 2nd gear. It's the same as the stock shifter was.

MilehighM3 · 04-18-2012, 09:39 PM

If you have trouble going first to second with the stock shifter, it's going to get worse with a shorter shifter. The decrease in leverage increases effort. The BMWP kit is pretty nice. Not too aggressive, and not as mechanical as the uuc kit. If you go uuc, get the dssr rod as well. It's weighted and it will help reduce effort

Kcc · 04-18-2012, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmw135er

If you have trouble going first to second with the stock shifter, it's going to get worse with a shorter shifter. The decrease in leverage increases effort. The BMWP kit is pretty nice. Not too aggressive, and not as mechanical as the uuc kit. If you go uuc, get the dssr rod as well. It's weighted and it will help reduce effort

Which means the UUC with dssr rod is nice, but the cost would went up to almost $500+. Coz Canadian BMW tax is even higher than it is in the US.

Any chime in about the Active Autowerk S1 SS? Vendor welcome!

Kcc

Edit: can't afford to go wrong, I have very limited mod dollars.

andrey_gta · 04-18-2012, 10:30 PM

the SSK from UUC is $355 from Turner, with DSSR its 484:
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-...hift-kits.aspx

But its only for 135i and not 128i
is there a significant difference, would it work for 128?

Viral@ActiveAutowerke · 04-18-2012, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcc

Hi there, I am looking for input on which short shifter to go with. I know there are OEM, UUC (EVO3), AA S1...is there anything I have missed?

I don't know much about SS, (none actually). So far I have searched on the info:

-plastic ball joint isn't as good as metal.
-1st to 2nd gear isn't smooth with the OEM
-The UUC doesn't fit that good
-Installation is done inside the car and not under.

is all those reading I have had true? Which brand would be the best bet to get? Does the SS come with only the stick part or with the base too? I am leaning toward the AA S1 right now. Also I should be getting the SS from local vendor due to tax and shipping included for less trouble.

Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

N55 2011 135i

Kcc

Hey There,

I am glad your looking to improve the Performance of your 135i with a Short Throw Shift Kit. Our Active Autowerke S1 Short Shift Kit is a combination of the best of both worlds we have teamed up with UUC to create a product that eliminates the factory plastic ball joint with a Metal Ball resulting in a much improved and solid shift as you engage in each gear and obtain a better driving experience.

Please feel free to contact me direct at Viral@activeautowerke.com and I will be more than glad to provide you with more information and Special Forum Pricing on our Active Autowerke S1 Short Shift Kits.

MilehighM3 · 04-18-2012, 11:10 PM

Viral,
Does your shifter have any of the gear rattle that the uuc kits used to exhibit on decel in gear? I haven't done a kit without the dssr rod in years for that reason. I'm not exactly familiar with your kit is why I ask. TIA

Viral@ActiveAutowerke · 04-18-2012, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmw135er

Viral,
Does your shifter have any of the gear rattle that the uuc kits used to exhibit on decel in gear? I haven't done a kit without the dssr rod in years for that reason. I'm not exactly familiar with your kit is why I ask. TIA

Great Question!!! We do offer a DSSR as well to counter any gear rattle, but it is not noticeable in the newer vehicle comparing to previous generations more specifically E46 & E36.

Kcc · 04-19-2012, 12:13 AM

Does that means I could use AA S1 SSK with DSSR rod to get the best result? No rattle as TIA mention and smoothest shifting experience? Let say, what if I don't get the DSSR, any command?

I live in Ontario, I just hate paying shipping and tax...but I do like the kind and good service from AA! (there is a reason why I said that)

How about the installation? My Nissan tech friend is gonna do it for me, but I don't want him to slip under my car with a jack and stand for safety reason.

Kcc

Kcc · 04-19-2012, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrey_gta

the SSK from UUC is $355 from Turner, with DSSR its 484:
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-...hift-kits.aspx

But its only for 135i and not 128i
is there a significant difference, would it work for 128?

Thanks for info.

Lambobimmer · 04-19-2012, 05:00 AM

I just bought the UUC 2 weeks ago with the DSSR for about $400. They had a 15% off sale. Haven't installed yet but plan to within the next 2 weeks.

Not trying to step on any toes but the AA SSK is exactly the same as the UUC SSK.

MilehighM3 · 04-19-2012, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viral@ActiveAutowerke

Great Question!!! We do offer a DSSR as well to counter any gear rattle, but it is not noticeable in the newer vehicle comparing to previous generations more specifically E46 & E36.

Probably due to the newer 6 speeds having 2 bushings that mount the shifter carrier to the transmission I would guess. Good to know, and thanks for the late replies way past your bed time! Haha

MilehighM3 · 04-19-2012, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcc

Does that means I could use AA S1 SSK with DSSR rod to get the best result? No rattle as TIA mention and smoothest shifting experience? Let say, what if I don't get the DSSR, any command?

I live in Ontario, I just hate paying shipping and tax...but I do like the kind and good service from AA! (there is a reason why I said that)

How about the installation? My Nissan tech friend is gonna do it for me, but I don't want him to slip under my car with a jack and stand for safety reason.

Kcc

You should be able to install the shifter from the top, but probably not the dssr rod. That takes a little more access. Worth the upgrade though, at least with my experience on the E36/46/39s I've had in the past. Very smooth, nice fitment and roller bearings every where. Makes for nice shifting and great feedback.

Viral@ActiveAutowerke · 04-19-2012, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamboworld

I just bought the UUC 2 weeks ago with the DSSR for about $400. They had a 15% off sale. Haven't installed yet but plan to within the next 2 weeks.

Not trying to step on any toes but the AA SSK is exactly the same as the UUC SSK.

Glad you brought this up we teamed with UUC to design a SSK that will provide our Clients much more confident feel as each gear is engaged than the OEM from Factory. Congrats on your purchase please post some pics when you have installed on the 1er buddy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmw135er

Probably due to the newer 6 speeds having 2 bushings that mount the shifter carrier to the transmission I would guess. Good to know, and thanks for the late replies way past your bed time! Haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmw135er

You should be able to install the shifter from the top, but probably not the dssr rod. That takes a little more access. Worth the upgrade though, at least with my experience on the E36/46/39s I've had in the past. Very smooth, nice fitment and roller bearings every where. Makes for nice shifting and great feedback.

Yeah the double bushings do help absorb a good amount of the gear vibration but still the DSSR is the best route to go IMO.

M135 · 04-19-2012, 01:58 PM

OP do you have the sport package? I thought it had a short shifter already?

pnosker · 04-19-2012, 09:23 PM

If you want to do this cheap just buy the carrier and lever from BMW. It's like half the price of the kit.

Also you install below too with the circlip and replacing the carrier.

Kcc · 04-19-2012, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M135

OP do you have the sport package? I thought it had a short shifter already?

N55 came with a shorter throw shifter comparison to the N54 as I have read from other post, but the distance are still far comparing to my previous G35. I didn't upgrade to the M-sport package, is there a different?

Kcc

Kcc · 04-19-2012, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnosker

If you want to do this cheap just buy the carrier and lever from BMW. It's like half the price of the kit.

Also you install below too with the circlip and replacing the carrier.

Could you explain further? I am not too familiar with SSK. Thanks.

Kcc

M135 · 04-20-2012, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcc

N55 came with a shorter throw shifter comparison to the N54 as I have read from other post, but the distance are still far comparing to my previous G35. I didn't upgrade to the M-sport package, is there a different?

Kcc

I am not sure if there is a difference or not.

I had a G35 then G37 before going BMW, and I think the throws are comparable to the 37. I remember the 35 being longer throws, and went short throw on it.

Kcc · 04-20-2012, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M135

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcc

N55 came with a shorter throw shifter comparison to the N54 as I have read from other post, but the distance are still far comparing to my previous G35. I didn't upgrade to the M-sport package, is there a different?

Kcc

I am not sure if there is a difference or not.

I had a G35 then G37 before going BMW, and I think the throws are comparable to the 37. I remember the 35 being longer throws, and went short throw on it.

Haven't had a chance on the G37, but comparing my Golf IV with G35 and the different is huge! But by looking at the AA S1, we should get a much better shifting experience as it stat a 30% different.

Kcc

pnosker · 04-21-2012, 11:06 AM

This applies to the N54, not sure about the N55:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...80&hg=25&fg=95

I bought parts 4, 5, 6, and 7. It cost me a total of around $150 vs over $300 for the kit.

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