BMW M5, M6 and 335i Lap Times from Annual Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2013 @ VIR

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Originally Posted by ufgtrs2007

The new M5 outperforms the old M5 in every performance aspect. It is arguably the best car BMW makes right now. For all the haters that are trashing BMW M, there is truth that the division is geared more towards marketing and sales, but who can argue with that, BMW is a company and is run like a business. That's not however mutually exclusive from making incredibly capable cars. To me M cars were about the total package, not whether it could lap a circuit faster than any other competitor. After driving an M3 and now an M5, I would never consider a regular series BMW, that is just how good M cars are. And for those who continue to complain about the direction of M division, I hope that you don't just listen to forum banter but rather go and drive these cars and evaluate them yourselves. If you don't like them, buy something else.

So you just want to pose around in a M5 in other words. An "M" car has a true motorsports heritage, a car that is capable of delivering respectable high performance on the track as well as regular driving. Yet its track numbers suggests otherwise. Also the fact that something like an S6 (in the same class as a M550) can hang with it was chosen over the M5 in a recent comparo says a lot about the way the M division is heading. And yes, I have driven the new M5. And like most complaints out there I find it extremely isolated in terms of driving dynamics. It simply doesn't feel all that special. Heck if I didn't know it was a M5, I could have sworn it was just any 5series with a sport package.

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I usually done chime in but I'm truly dissapointed. This is the same reason why I went back and forth wondering if I should purchase an e92 or go with an e46 for such a long time.

What's worse is while everyone raves that the new M3/M4 will be so much better, in reality its power output won't be jaw dropping. They already announced that it will have the same HP as the current M and that they will improve on torque and engine "weight." Come onnnn.... you aren't fooling anyone BMW! "engine weight reduction"!! really? all that so called "weight" will be allocated into the electronics or other BS the car doesn't really need. I will not waste my money on the next model M cars. I rather boost my e92 than go down a 70K money pit on a car that won't deliver to MY standards.

As much as I hate saying it, my next car (which is truly a bang for your buck in my opinion) will probably be the new ZO6.