Twitter Trainwreck

[Leucosticte]

Originally Posted by minn19

Third party info from a company of 7500 people, totally clears it up top to bottom.

It certainly gives you a general trend.

[ryan stewart]

Originally Posted by Leucosticte

I mean the average Twitter employee is the type of person who complains about their salary while making 150k (or more) a year, I don't feel bad for them.

The average person from the midwest commenting about 150k as an excessive salary has no clue how expensive real cities are is what I find the funniest.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Leucosticte

It certainly gives you a general trend.

In a large (ish) company, no it doesn’t.

You guys have this all figured out, I’ll see myself out.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by minn19

In a large (ish) company, no it doesn’t.

You guys have this all figured out, I’ll see myself out.

Is this more helpful, perhaps?

https://www.comparably.com/companies/twitter/salaries

[minn19]

Originally Posted by dradernh

Is this more helpful, perhaps?

https://www.comparably.com/companies/twitter/salaries

I posted that same link a few posts back.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by minn19

I posted that same link a few posts back.

Sorry about that; I do try desperately to not make that mistake!

[minn19]

Originally Posted by dradernh

Sorry about that; I do try desperately to not make that mistake!

No prob, it’s all good!

[KRS_SN]

Building up a firm from scratch in an environment with no effective competitors and aided by govt subsidies and the climate movement is one thing.
My sympathies are firmly with the employees. A new boss comes in and fires folk and makes life very hard for the rest.
As someone put it "The fact it would go from central town square for the world to 'will it work tomorrow?' is a big question,"

[its55]

Of course I don't like seeing people loose jobs, however others such as Amazon are laying off people right and left as well.

What Musk has been doing with Twitter is beautiful.

[floridaorange]

Hopefully Facebook/meta will be next, followed by sweeping restrictions on instagram, spapchat and tiktok. Give them the adult content rating they deserve. Get them out of the hands of our kids and fine those who have targeted the youth and the unsophisticated. More education in the classroom on what theses internet apps are doing to our young peoples developing minds.

[vreihen16]

Many here seem to have forgotten that Elon Musk was one of the founders of PayPal, and came from the Stanford University business startups culture. He's no stranger to dotcom and Silicon Valley culture.....

[BMWILUVU]

He is streamlining the company. The people who resigned were probably censorship liberals anyway. All he needs to keep are the agnostic engineers who don't have an ultra-liberal agenda. Anyone here who worked for big companies know only 20% of the workers do 80% of the work and I am being generous.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

That's a pretty sad mindset to have - rooting against him bc he has an ego?

I really don't know what's wrong with the e-mail he sent out. He wants people back in the office and to actually work. It's obviously unrealistic of him to expect everyone to have his drive but he's making a point and trying to change the attitude there.

You're mad at him because he wants Twitter to be successful? Such a bizarre take I've seen repeatedly from the MSM

GTFOH with that stupid crap. Our VP has told us to chill out and step away from the computer because we are MORE PRODUCTIVE working from home than we were in the office.

[Turkish Pickle]

Originally Posted by minn19

Last, why is it assumed that if someone doesn’t want to go “hardcore” they are automatically considered slackers and not productive/important employees?

This isn't specific to Elon/Twitter, this has been my experience through my career

[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

GTFOH with that stupid crap. Our VP has told us to chill out and step away from the computer because we are MORE PRODUCTIVE working from home than we were in the office.

Im a work from home proponent for the record. With that said - extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures.

No one was working at twitter man. Name one thing which has been updated since 2010 on the app? They’ve promoted a culture of stagnation. Elon had to shake things up and get folks back in the office to get motivated

[Tyga11]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

Hopefully Facebook/meta will be next, followed by sweeping restrictions on instagram, spapchat and tiktok. Give them the adult content rating they deserve. Get them out of the hands of our kids and fine those who have targeted the youth and the unsophisticated. More education in the classroom on what theses internet apps are doing to our young peoples developing minds.

I agree for the record. Kids are literally addicted to tiktok. It’s as big of a problem as the drug epidemic.

I shake my head with what Meta is promoting with VR. Is the real world that bad? Why do we need an alternate universe to interact.

[SteezeforMyBimmerMon]

Elon is becoming a political figure.

[Sedan_Clan]

Why is it a train wreck? Shortly after Twitter (…Musk) laid off workers, Amazon (…Bezos), Meta (…Zuckerberg), etc. laid off workers and Google is setting themselves up for massive layoffs as well. Musk isn't stupid.

Meta and Amazon laid off nearly three times as many employees as Twitter, yet, we focus solely on Musk's decision?!? Unnecessary meltdown much?!? The only reason people are up in arms over Musk is because they are upset over his acquisition.

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by floridaorange

Hopefully Facebook/meta will be next, followed by sweeping restrictions on instagram, spapchat and tiktok. Give them the adult content rating they deserve. Get them out of the hands of our kids and fine those who have targeted the youth and the unsophisticated. More education in the classroom on what theses internet apps are doing to our young peoples developing minds.

They're turning them into narcissistic sociopaths.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

Im a work from home proponent for the record. With that said - extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures.

No one was working at twitter man. Name one thing which has been updated since 2010 on the app? They’ve promoted a culture of stagnation. Elon had to shake things up and get folks back in the office to get motivated

Don't know, don't care. I had a Twitter account years ago, didn't see any value, and deleted it. From what I can tell at this point, Twitter seems to be a place where lazy journalists give power to whiny blue hairs because it's easier than doing real reporting.

*I say this as someone with a Journalism degree that despises what it has become on both sides.

[DETRoadster]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Why is it a train wreck? Shortly after Twitter (…Musk) laid off workers, Amazon (…Bezos), Meta (…Zuckerberg), etc. laid off workers and Google is setting themselves up for massive layoffs as well. Musk isn't stupid.

Meta and Amazon laid off nearly three times as many employees as Twitter, yet, we focus solely on Musk's decision?!? Unnecessary meltdown much?!? The only reason people are up in arms over Musk is because they are upset over his acquisition.

Musk isn't stupid but he is impulsive.

Amazon has something like 1.4M employees and Meta has over 70k. Twitter HAD 7k. You can't compare them based on the numbers laid off. That's just silly. Compare the layoffs and subsequent exodus at Twitter based on a % of workforce.

Did Amazon, Google, and Meta put core revenue at risk with the layoffs? Did any of them leave critical departments completely unstaffed?

A lot of people here defending WHY Musk came in and gutted the place. My train wreck comments were more directed at the HOW.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Musk isn't stupid but he is impulsive.

Amazon has something like 1.4M employees and Meta has over 70k. Twitter HAD 7k. You can't compare them based on the numbers laid off. That's just silly. Compare the layoffs and subsequent exodus at Twitter based on a % of workforce.

Did Amazon, Google, and Meta put core revenue at risk with the layoffs? Did any of them leave critical departments completely unstaffed?

A lot of people here defending WHY Musk came in and gutted the place. My train wreck comments were more directed at the HOW.

He may seem impulsive to some, but I view him as being calculated. He has seen Twitter beneath the layers and has a much better vantage point about what is necessary to maintain the product/service as efficiently as possible. He had a lot of time to think about what needed to be done to set the company on a better path. For all we know, he went in there and saw a bloated workforce and knew immediately where to trim the fat. His perspective on what constitutes a "critical department" may differ from yours. Some of those departments weren't critical at all IMHO.